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Lufia 2: Curse of Nostalgia
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Pandar
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 8:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have it on my R4 but I've been occupied with Etrian Odyssey 3 and FF: 4 Heroes of Light and Super Scribblenauts and Minecraft and League of Legends. I'll get to it eventually though.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 4:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love all kinds of DS games but after I buy them I never play them. I'm sure it's got something to do with getting used to handheld gaming, which I've never done.

Maybe what I should do is play a Mario game on the DS and calibrate my senses in a way closest to my original NES experience.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pandar wrote:
I have it on my R4 but I've been occupied with Etrian Odyssey 3 and FF: 4 Heroes of Light and Super Scribblenauts and Minecraft and League of Legends. I'll get to it eventually though.

LOL you can still play games on an R4? That was the first card I ever got and it was a nightmare once Nintendo started cracking down on piracy. Acekard with AKAIO is where I'm rolling now. Still have a sealed copy of Lufia cause Lufia rules even when it sucks.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

but R4 is the best card out with the new wood OS that someone made :/
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecraponahat wrote:
but R4 is the best card out with the new wood OS that someone made :/


HWO DO U LIKE WOOD?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 18, 2010 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thecraponahat wrote:
but R4 is the best card out with the new wood OS that someone made :/


I'd put the SCDS2 far above the rest, actually.
Also, AKAIO 1.8.0 >> Wood 1.14.2. The intro remover is a godsend.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

AKAIO 1.8 is amazing. Built in anti-anti piracy? Effing yes! I still have my R4 mucking about someplace. I should try out Wood, or would you say it's not worth bothering Pip?

I can't believe Nintendo Power's review is the only one for this game. I'm dying to see how it will be received by gaming press, but nobody is playing it! After 7 plus hours I'm ready to commit and say that it is DAMN fun to play. Easily my favorite Japanese ARPG in years. I highly recommend you all check it out. I can't wait to get my copy. It sounds like it's gonna be pretty rare!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am at a dungeon now where a path forms under you from out of nowhere, like the junkyard level in Mario Galaxy. I've honestly never seen a DS chug this hard. It's like playing in slow motion. Poor design choice. I really really wish this game was on consoles. I would love to play this with more power behind it. Maybe with AI control for your party so you're not constantly swapping between one member at a time.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Posted at the Disco, so this is just a cross post. Thought I would share cause I like this thread and you all.

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I've completely 180'd on Lufia. It's a god damned blast to play. Enough is different that it's great to experience even as somebody that played the original a dozen times or so. Some of the character designs still bug me and I wish there was more focus on party, since it's really easy to just find a favorite character and play them primarily when there aren't puzzles that need others' skills. It's still really, really fun. I would never ever say it was better than the original, but the action RPG gameplay in this one is definitely more enjoyable to me than just clicking on combat options in a turn based game. The dungeons and puzzles are all completely different, and while I loved the puzzles in the OG game, the new ones are just as challenging at times and I'm having a blast trying to figure out how to get through them all.

Complaints about the lack of party focus aside, it's really fun switching around to all your characters (your active member gets more exp, and levels up faster, so you want to move around a bit) and they all play so differently it's like playing a different game when you switch to them. Maxim is just a straight up blender but with certain weapons gets some neat fire magic. Selan has a really neat, unique feel with her chakram and ice magic. Tia is a ranged attacker and kind of a paper tiger, so you have to play lots of keepaway with enemies. Guy is, of course a beefy tank, so he can get in and swing his axe and take lots of hits. I'm about to get Dekkar (in the dungeon where you save Prince Alex) and I can't wait to see what they do with Artea and his gun (elf with gun? What the fuck is this, Shadowrun?). The lack of a world map is completely negligible. You get to towns, talk to folks (Maxim actually introduces himself to every npc in the game!) get your mission and go to dungeons where the meat is. There's an option to temporarily boost your characters 5 levels if they all die in a dungeon, but I haven't wiped at all. There's a skill grid that you can load up with gems for your favorite characters to give them crazy stat and ability boosts, so the characters I like the most (mainly Maxim and Selan so far) can completely overpower enemies with no grinding whatsoever.

I would suck a Japanese man's dick if it meant I could get this on a console so the DS wouldn't chug in the dungeon I just finished (paths and platforms spring up from out of a void like that junkyard level in Mario Galaxy) and I could maybe get some AI control for party members. This series really doesn't belong on hand helds. I love the DS as much as anybody, but I really want to play a Lufia game at full power just like I did as a teen all those years ago.

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LiQuid! wrote:
AKAIO 1.8 is amazing. Built in anti-anti piracy? Effing yes! I still have my R4 mucking about someplace. I should try out Wood, or would you say it's not worth bothering Pip?


I tried it while I was waiting for the latest AKAIO. It's great if the only thing you own is an R4; finally brings it about to the functionality of the other cards. Nothing spectacular comparatively though and under featured compared to AKAIO and the pricey carts.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

AKAIO is pro. Did you play Lufia?
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bottlenecked on the Gades fight today where it was just Max and Selan against him so I made a couple uses of the +5 level feature. What a genius feature. I'm sure they're counting on 90% of the Lufia fanbase being completely uncoordinated mongoloids, so the ability to just get 5 levels for sucking is so unjapanese. Of course it'd be super easy to exploit it, but if you really just wanted to breeze through the game to see the story changes, sure why the hell not?

Of course if they had just let me carry more than 9 potions/miracles I wouldn't have been in that predicament in the first place. Gades is such a cheap ass bastard. I can't wait to see how they handle the fights with the other 3 sinistrals.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

WTF?! Artea can fly! And he uses gunkata! Best remake of all time!!!
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So far no problems with wood I still have to get the latest version but my DS is very dusty now (Literally) I tried to play a bit yesterday but jumped back on my chair and played on my PC all day Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 6:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beat it at just under 20 hours. The final few hours were kind of a mess. The pacing of the rest of the game was really blown. There was a big, 3 story dungeon full of the same repetitive puzzle of varying degrees of difficulty, and while none of them took me more than a handful of tries to finish, it was still really tedious and repetitive. Then there was about 4 or 5 different times during the course of the final events of the game where you had to backtrack to all 5 of the games' towns and make the jog through them to talk to that town's leader just for a quick dialog scene. It was completely unnecessary.

The ending itself was also kind of a disaster, two of the four sinistral fights were repeats of fights that you'd already done before (in the case of Gades, it was already your half dozenth time doing the same exact fight) and one of the fights was unwinnable, nay unfightable. You just had to sit there and take damage until the fight stopped. Then in the final fight against Daos, you get the Dual Blade, which you can literally use to stop time for about 10 seconds while you rack up free hits to the tune of 9,999 damage a use. It's completely broken and pointless.

The ending cinematic was kind of lame too. They don't really explain how or why Maxim and Selan die, they just kind of pass out after they sink Doom Island and turn into the energy balls and then fly around showing everyone oblivious to the fact that they just croaked. Overall the first dozen hours of the game were really great though. It's a shame the pacing took away from what was supposed to be a really epic, touching finale. By the end you could just tell they were looking for any way to artificially extend the game a couple more hours.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been missing Wein Cruz lately so thanks for this thread Liquid, but you really should have done it with a game that came out 10 years ago and not just a remake.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sry, I'll try harder next time. Sad
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